There is a dead dude...
he is freaking out.
There was a force that smashed my face
I'm sorry.
It is trying to kill us.
She had been hit multiple times in the head.
I'm seeing, like, flesh being, like, opened.
Somebody is going to die in this house.
This is like Grand Central Station for the dead.
Panic... Panic... Panic.
My name, Amy Allen.
I'm seeing, like, blood.
The house just feels bad.
I see dead people.
This man is completely insane.
I speak to dead people.
Okay, she doesn't like it in there.
And they speak to me.
He likes to twist that knife.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
Something paranormal is trying to kill them.
I rely on my partner, I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
Now, does he die right there on the spot?
I know every person, every house has secrets.
I think it's trying to steal my soul.
It's my job to reveal them.
Did you ever get touched like that again?
But Steve and I never speak.
We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
I'm as stunned as you guys are.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
I don't want anything to happen to my daughter.
Or time to get out.
His goal is to kill you guys.
I'm out here in Marshalltown, Iowa
It's about an hour outside of Des Moines.
I got a call from a woman named Kelly.
Now, she sounded pretty bad, but get this-
Her and her husband are both professional paranormal investigators.
Now, you'd think they wouldn't need our help,
but Kelly says she's in way over her head.
Whatever is in that house is going to
take one of them out unless we can do something fast.
Before Amy arrives I look for any leading information--
religious icons, family photographs,
and even medical equipment can influence her findings
so it's important to cover or remove them all.
When I'm finished the location will be ready to tonight's walk.
A lot of things that were negative happened here.
Bad things happened with living people here
and the house took it on,
and the energy that's left here
is too chaotic.
Kelly, it sounds like you've got a pretty bad situation.
Um, tell me what's happening.
We are being physically attacked in the house.
Our health is declining.
We are desperate...we need you and Amy to help us.
You have to wait a minute.
Take this.
I'm Sorry.
Don't be sorry.
You okay to go on?
Yes.
All right-- so Kelly, who lives in the house?
This is me, my husband Mike,
and our youngest son, Chris who is 29.
Is everybody in the house being affected?
I think I'm getting the brunt of the physical attacks.
But I think Chris is getting mentally affected.
What do you mean?
I've watched Chris' personality change since we've been here.
Usually he's very pleasant
but sometimes he just gets very angry.
Do me a favor and give me a run down on what you guys are experiencing.
We are hearing disembodied voices,
shadow figures and apparitions.
We're being physically attacked,
and our health is declining.
I got to address the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
You guys are paranormal investigators.
Yeah. Why can't you fix this?
Every time we try it just gets worse
It's like a doctor getting sick
and not being able to heal himself.
Now, it sounds like you're going through a pretty tough time here.
Why don't you just sell the freaking house and leave?
I don't want to give up.
Every room in this house means something to us. Okay.
I'm fearful that...
that somebody is going to die
in this house.
I'm sorry.
Everybody needs help once in a while, okay?
We do need help.
There's a lot of dead people here
who didn't necessarily die here,
so I'm thinking that someone drawing them in
leads me to believe medium on site.
Whoever is here doesn't know how to help them.
And I hear from this living person
"No time for this...too tired"
This living person already does a lot for others.
It's like I can't ever not be helping people
whether living, dead, whatever.
So Kelly it's never really good when people take me to a staircase.
So, what's going on?
If I stay in this area I get a tight pressure
on the outside of my head.
I know you're on a lot of medication.
You sure it's not a side effect?
I don't take any medicines that have side effects like that.
Anything else physical happen to you?
There was a force that smashed my face into the step.
One these steps right here?
Yes.
Geez.
That is from something smashing me into the step.
This is pretty bad.
Kelly, I've got to play devil's advocate here.
You sure you didn't just lose your balance and fall?
I've fallen many times. Okay.
And there was a big difference in the way that I fell.
Anything else?
I was in the refrigerator getting a drink.
Okay.
It was like 3 fingers,
pinched and pushed me out of the refrigerator.
It really looked like a burn or a brand.
Did it stay on your body for a while?
It did-- for 3 or 4 hours.
Boy.
There's a dead dude in there.
He is just freaking the...out.
He's moving so fast he's literally just blurs.
I think the living would be affected by his emotional state.
In what way?
He could cause physical harm. He is a cutter or a burner.
He likes to hit people in the head to cause headaches.
He puts off all of these different emotions.
Extreme agitation, outbursts of violence.
Mostly anger-- that feeling doesn't really go away here, and it's scary.
Steve, I need to sit down.
Go ahead... you okay?
There you go.
Comfortable? Mmhm.
So, what's going on in here.
I've seen a black shadow figure.
Describe the black figure for me.
No arms, no legs, no eyes, no facial - nothing
And I could see through it.
And as soon as I looked at it and made eye contact with it,
it went away.
Anything else?
When I'm laying in bed
the sheets get tugged on and pulled off the bed.
How the hell are you sleeping at night?
I don't.
If it's not tugging on the sheets or the bedspread
it's poking me and pinching me,
and tapping on the bottom of the bed.
It's constant-- all night long.
Do you think those investigations that you do
maybe you brought something here?
It is possible.
That something is trying to communicate with me in this house.
With all this going on, how the hell are you handling it?
I'm not handling it.
The stress and the anxiety are overwhelming
That's why I need you guys here. Okay.
Medium is in here.
It is a female...
It gets very bad in here sometimes.
This is like Grand Central Station for the dead.
There's a bunch of random dead that
try to come in here, and so that causes stress and chaos.
They hear things-- they see things.
What kind of specific experiences might they have?
I think that they would hear many people talking at the same time.
They would feel many people in the room
if not even see some of them.
Feel their bed being shaken.
I think that most nights this person doesn't get any sleep
I think this person has tried to ignore her abilities.
What's going to happen to this medium
if they don't deal with their abilities?
It can lead to panic attacks.
The person can get, like, violently ill and start producig vomiting,
and the heart can be affected.
I don't like this.
So Mike, I was talking to your wife earlier
and she told me some horrible things that she's going through.
Yes.
You must be worried about her.
Very much worried-- she's scared.
She's being terrorized in her own home,
and there's nothing I can do.
So Mike, I know you're part of the paranormal team.
What's your role in it?
I videotape-- I also help to review the evidence,
and try and decide whether it's legitimate
paranormal activity or can it be debunked.
So, have you had experiences in the house?
There's some things that happened that I don't have explanations for.
Okay, like what?
I was scratched once.
You have a dog. Yes.
All right. Is it possible the dog could have did it?
I don't think that's a possibility.
Okay so, you've been scratched, anything else?
There's an attic door that's about 6 to 8 feet away from our bedroom door,
and occasionally it would just
kind of creep open on its own.
Activity got to be to the point where
I finally just kind of put a latch on the door so it would stay shut.
Do you think you guys maybe brought something from an investigation?
I think it's possible.
So, what if Amy does tell you you guys gotta leave?
I don't want to leave-- we love this house.
I'm going to push Amy to give us some other options.
We want to fight-- we want to stay.
There's a dead lady who is all in black.
This is her house
She is pretending that she has a life here.
Does she do anything to the living?
The living here would hear conversations
her walking around.
They would hear her laughing, crying, yelling.
The lady that's all in black--
she likes this area.
So, I think the living would see, like, all this blackness.
There's a threat I think she feels it's a male
that's the threat.
I think she might have issues with males in general.
She is pretty aggressive.
She is trying to keep people away so she can be bad
and be killing people.
So Chris, I was talking to your mom earlier.
She's convinced that your personality has changed.
Do you agree with that at all?
I think theirs have.
Okay, so you think that your parents are the ones who have changed.
What do you mean?
They get agitated.
It's always just bickering,
and I can't take it anymore.
That's funny because that's what they're sayin' about you.
Yeah.
The paranormal activity that's going on in the house,
do you believe it's happening to your mom?
I don't disbelieve it,
but I haven't experienced any of it.
You've had no experiences at all?
Nothing. Not a single one.
You're not...and trying to be like "Nothing happens to me."
No. I've been here longer than anyone.
I'm here more often than anyone,
but I've not experienced anything.
But you do believe your mom is going through something?
Yeah, I believe that.
I don't know why she'd lie.
You know, talking to your mom,
all she was saying was she was worried about you.
Most people should be worried about her.
The dead lady does sleep in here.
She's bothering somebody in here-- a living person.
This is not good.
She's reaching down grabbing this person
and literally sucking the life out of them.
Is this living person aware of what she's doing?
Yes and no.
That person thinks that they're having
a good experience with her but its not.
So Nikki, I understand you're Kelly's daughter.
Mmhm...yes.
The times that you've spent here, have you had any experiences?
Something always follows me upstairs.
I won't go up there.
I feel like it will push you down the steps.
I feel that.
So you feel it's a he?
Yeah.
Okay, anything else happen to you while you were here?
Something scratched me.
It was four scratch marks and they were about this long...
and they were all red.
Did they stay for a while? Did they go away?
A couple of days later I had, like, a scab on all of them.
She mentioned your brother has changed a lot since he's been here.
Have you noticed that?
Yeah.
He has big outbursts, and then he'll come back downstairs
an hour later-- he's fine.
So, do you think its something in the house influencing him?
I believe so. He gets very angry.
Your mom...she doesn't seem too healthy
and she's a young woman still.
That's happened since she moved into the house.
She feels like something in this house
is going to eventually try to kill her.
I knew it was bad, but I didn't think it was that bad.
I want her to move.
I hope she understands that she means a lot to us.
I always feel like I'm the oldest child
and I need to be the one there to protect her, and I can't.
I hope you guys can help her out and get my mom back.
My kids need their grandmother alive.
This dead lady is really fixed on the male here.
Do you have any idea what it is about this person?
I think she does prefer younger people.
How would this affect them?
I think it would make them sick-- drained, depressed,
and after some time would get progressively sicker.
She is weakening them, and she is trying to kill them.
So, I always start my investigation
by calling a bunch on a bunch of the locals--
cops, reporters, genealogists.
In this case, it's paid off.
I'm heading over to meet an historian
who says one of the original owners of Kelly and Mike's land
was a faith healer who is responsible
for the deaths of some of his followers.
Now, you mentioned on the phone that my client's property
used to be owned by a faith healer.
Who was this guy?
His name was Kendall Roberts.
He was a farmer.
He was married to a young woman by the name of Angie Braddock.
Okay.
Somewhere in the 1880s he became the head of
the Christian Science movement in the Marshalltown area.
One of the tenants of the Christian Science
is that disease is really a myth,
so he spent his time trying to cure people by prayer.
Does he have any kind of medical background?
He has no formal medical training.
What happens is he's so involved in this traveling around
that people started to think of him as a doctor
and referred to him as a doctor.
But, unfortunately, several people died under his care.
Does he get charged with any kind of crime?
Yes, there are three instances where he was charged
and not found guilty.
Let me get this straight.
This guy gets charged 3 times for people dying under his care
with this prayer stuff, but he gets off? Yes.
So, now how's his wife dealing with it?
We have to assume she was embarrassed.
And on top of that, she has her own personal tragedies
that she has to cope with.
Okay, which is what?
The death of two of her small children.
One child dies in 1891, an infant daughter.
In 1896, her three year old son dies choking on a button.
Geez.
Okay, when did they wind up on my client's property?
They moved in there, I think, in 1918.
They weren't there all that long.
In 1922, Angie dies in your client's house of breast cancer.
What about him?
He actually dies of kidney failure in 1923.
So those prayers didn't help him out.
No.
This weirdo dead lady... she ain't so mentally sound, this one.
Can you tell me anything about her from life?
She lived here at some point.
I know she was married.
She drags around this dead kid about 5 years of age,
and then a dead baby in her right arm.
They died, and she lost her mind.
She had a mental breakdown
I think she died in the 20s, 1920s--
Do you know how she died?
I'm thinking like cancer.
Yeah, this is not a good situation.
All right, so I just spoke to a local cop, and he sounds like a real stand up guy.
He went digging through the files for me
and found two murders that happened right near Kelly's house.
So Adrian, on the phone you mentioned this homicide
took place right near my client's property.
What can you tell me about it?
The victims name was Susan Vickers.
She was 31 years old.
She was a single mom of three kids.
She lived a couple of blocks away from your client's property.
Tell me what happens the night she gets murdered.
On August 22,1980
she left on foot to the Iowa Veterans Home
where she worked.
She never showed up for her 11 p.m. shift.
She was found later on that evening on the grounds
of the Iowa Veterans Home in the cemetery.
I've got Susan's death certificate right here.
She had been hit multiple times in the head.
How close did this happen to my client's property?
It actually took place about 2,200 feet from your client's property.
Did they make a collar? Did they like anybody? What happened?
Well, they had a suspect at the time.
His name was Jerry Sumter, Jr.
All right, so where's this scumbag now?
He was sentenced to life in prison.
I almost feel like there's a beating happening.
I'm getting pain, like, here really bad.
I'm feeling a female-- I'm just hearing a woman crying and yelling.
She was younger, maybe 20s.
I'm feeling impact to the mid section.
And then I'm, like, seeing, like, flesh being, like, opened.
The guy doing it to her he had PTSD,
and something was wrong with his mind as well.
I think he murdered her.
All right, so tell me about the next murder?
The victim's name is Richard Tassler,
and he's a 43-year-old native of Marshalltown.
He lived a couple of blocks away from your client's property.
He was involved in the drug trade.
All right. So, what happened?
On April 24, 1986,
he's on the way to his parents house.
That's the last time he was ever seen.
Okay. Did they ever make an arrest?
Yes.
His name was Joel Smitherman,
and he was locally involved in the drug trade as well,
and he was also the last person that was seen with Tassler.
Did they find the body?
Yes. They exhumed Tassler's body on Smitherman's property.
I've got his death certificate here for you.
All right-- multiple gun shot wounds to the head.
Okay. Does he ever get convicted of it?
Yeah. He got life in prison and he's been
in the Iowa State Penitentiary ever since.
I'm seeing a big guy who is kinda roundish,
and I would put him probably being in his 30s.
Maybe early 40s.
All his clothes are really dirty, and he was a hobo con ma.
It seemed like he bought land
or got land here
and he was actually trying to get his...together.
and then I felt like I was being get choked.
And then I know there was a gun in my mouth
all the way shoved in there.
And then, lights out for him.
He says that "The ground ate him."
And so, I'm thinking they just buried him on the land.
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So far, I've got clients being physically assaulted in a house
where a faith healer lived,
on a property near the site of two grizzly murders,
but I want to see if there is anything else.
Searching through old records I find a tragic fire
that took the life of a young man.
Turns out, it happened less than a mile from Kelly and Mike's property.
So I got a genealogist looking into his death for me,
but he says there's a lot more to the story.
Turns out the victim's dad used to own my client's property, and get this.
He also had a pretty unforgettable run as the mayor of the city.
Well Marty, I appreciate you looking into this death for me.
What were you able to find out?
Well Steve, we're talking about
a young man by the name of Ross Ingledue.
Ross was the son of a very popular mayor here
in Marshalltown by the name of Oliver Ingledue.
Steve, Mayor Ingledue and his son Ross are just buried right over here.
So they were buried together.
Yes.
So, tell me about this deadly fire.
Ross was also very active in the local fire department
In 1903, he was fighting a very large fire in the center of town,
just about a half a mile from the property you're talking about.
Ross and his colleagues were able to put the out, but they suffered
long-term health issues with it?
All right so with these health effects, what happened to him?
The result of the fire was he suffered lung damage
leading to tuberculosis and passed away four years later.
I have a copy of his register of the death.
All right. So, he was a young guy?
Yeah, 24 years old.
Boy. There's this burning.
I don't know if it's, like, the whole place
or just this person somehow.
Somebody did, they did-- they died in the fire.
I think it's a male.
Terrible, terrible, terrible.
All right. So, now the kid dies. What happens?
Well, shortly after Ross Ingledue dies,
his father Oliver Ingledue buys your client's property
and that's the same time that he wins re-election as mayor.
Steve, here's a photo of Mayor Ingledue.
All right. You mentioned on the phone that this guy
had a pretty colorful mayorship.
Yes.
He had his own sense of lawmaking.
A very, very corrupt individual.
When you say "corruption", what are we talking about?
It was still prohibition, and Mayor Ingledue
was still allowing alcohol to be served.
So, the Feds sent an agent in and Mayor Ingledue
had that agent thrown in jail on bogus charges.
All right. What happens to this guy?
In 1923, he passed away
of complications from diabetes.
Here's a copy of his death certificate.
So, he died pretty young-- he was 61.
Yes.
I'm seeing the blurry dead guy again.
Do you have any idea why he's here?
I think he lived here at some point.
I feel like he's older, age-wise, and definitely didn't die well.
He feels physically sick, dizzy, panicked. I don't like him.
I feel like he's bad.
He had a lot of problems, you know?
I think he did bad things.
I saw several disturbing things during my walk,
but, two had me really concerned.
First, the group of dead in the master bedroom.
There were a lot of dead people in the room.
They want to talk to the living person in the bed.
There's a conflict between them.
And then the living person in the bed is just like freaking out.
Next, I describe the dead lady tormenting the living person.
I was upstairs in a very small room
and she, like, comes from the ceiling.
She kind of hangs from the ceiling.
And she also happens to always carry around
these, like, shells of these dead children.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes.
Now that Amy and I have completed our own investigations
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
So Amy, this is Kelly and her husband, Mike.
They live here with their adult son, Chris...
who is right here in the photo.
This is Nikki, Kelly's daughter.
She lives nearby.
Now, these are not our typical clients.
Kelly and Mike are professional paranormal investigators
so you can imagine things are really bad
if they couldn't fix things themselves.
That's why they called us in for help.
Now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys
I'll ask her to describe her walk through.
One of the first individuals that I came into contact with
was a male-- I would put him in his '30s or 40s.
He told me he was a hobo and a con man.
He wasn't a great person for most of his life.
But that he had been trying to turn his life around.
But, unfortunately he ended up getting murdered.
Initially, I felt that he was being choked,
and then I felt, actually, a gun in my mouth,
and then it was lights out.
I believe he was buried while he was still in his body.
He said the ground ate him.
So now, the guy you're describing sounds a lot
like somebody I came across doing my research.
This guys name was Richard Tassler.
He was a 43-year-old local guy.
He lived a couple of blocks from here, actually.
He wasn't a hobo, but he was definitely a con man.
Tassler was involved in the drug trade in town.
On April 24, 1986 he goes missing.
Four years later the cops got an anonymous tip
that Tassler was buried on a farm 15 miles from here.
And that's exactly how they found him-- buried in the dirt.
Now the farm they found him on belonged to a guy named
Joel Smitherman.
Now, he was involved in the drug trade with Tassler
and they worked together.
Now you said the guy was shot in the head.
That's exactly how Tassler got killed.
I have his death certificate here.
Took cops nearly 15 years to build a case
on Smitherman, but in 2005 they finally convicted him,
and he's in jail now.
Now I managed to track down a photo of Tassler.
Any chance this could be the guy you might have seen?
I think it could be.
This is really interesting.
So then, I go upstairs, and I got another guy.
I called him the blurry man because, like,
literally that's how you see him.
He's super angry, frustrated, emotional.
He's, like, freaking out-- maniac.
So, being around him could affect your mood
and make you feel a little bit unstable.
And that would be specifically when he was around.
And then when you're not around him, then you're normal again like that.
Now, one of the main things that you guys
have been experiencing are the mood changes.
The mood changes are exactly what you've described.
The worst of the mood changes are with Chris.
Interesting.
The scary thing, with this guy, that I got
was that he can be extremely physical.
He can hit people-- I got heads, eyes,
give people headaches, burn people and/or cut them.
Both of these ladies have been attacked.
Something scratched me-- it was four scratch marks,
but they were all in different directions.
I looked at it-- it was red.
Tell her about the incident with the refrigerator.
I bent down into the bottom shelf to get a soda out of the refrigerator
and something pinched me and pushed me out of the refrigerator,
and what it left was almost, like, a burn or a brand mark.
She mentioned something about headaches.
It's like a really tight swimming cap...
Okay.
...smashing the top of my head.
Now, all the things that we just discussed, could this be the blurry guy?
Yes.
Anything else?
Early on in the walk I got that there was a medium living in this house.
The individual sleeps upstairs in the bigger room.
That's your room-- the master bedroom. Mmhm.
I walked into that room and it was like Grand Central Station for the dead.
This person doesn't know how to deal with their abilities
so this is big problem.
Now, the dead are collecting in the bedroom
and they're getting pissed.
The way that I felt, like, you would experience this
would be feeling that the room was filled with people.
Possibly seeing some of them.
Hearing people talking, possibly yelling.
The bed moving or shaking,
and I don't think anybody would get any real sleep up there.
I mean, constant exposure to the dead is not good.
That'll make you sick.
Obviously, Kelly's the medium we're talking about.
I think so, yeah.
Tell Amy how your bedroom makes you feel.
Tormented in the bedroom-- I don't sleep.
I'm pinched. I'm poked.
I usually don't go to bed until 4 or 5 o'clock in the morning.
I wake Mike up all the time at night-- "Did you feel that?"
I didn't know it was that bad.
I'm scared for her.
Amy, is Kelly's bedroom always filled with dead people?
Yeah.
So, I had a sketch done of what I saw.
Scary. I feel things... you know.
I have asked Mike, you know,
"Don't you feel that on your leg?"
I quit asking him because he always says "No."
I encountered a female and was dressed all in black.
She also carries two dead children with her all the time.
One was a baby, one was about 5 years of age.
Maybe she had an emotional break down when they died.
Like, maybe that's why she's crazy now.
And, she really feels like this is her house.
She possibly lived here at some point.
I got that she died in her 20s.
The woman you're describing sounds a lot like a woman who used to live here.
Her name was Angie Roberts.
Now, she did come from a wealthy family,
and she married a local farmer named Kendall Roberts.
So, this guy thought that illnesses was a myth and that
he could heal people with prayer.
Problem was, instead of healing people he was killing them.
At least three people died under his care,
and it got him arrested three different times.
Found an article about this.
Now, he was never convicted, so he kept traveling trying to heal people.
You saw the lady that had two dead kids with her.
Angie lost two young children.
She lost an infant baby in 1891, and then
her three year old died choking on a button in 1896.
Now, Angie ended up dying in this house of breast cancer in 1922.
Here's her death certificate.
Now, do you think it's this woman Angie Roberts that's the woman in black?
I mean, it sounds like her.
So, as far as this woman is concerned, there is a lot
of different ways that you could have experiences with her.
The attic is her favorite.
So maybe you guys would hear her walking around up there.
Might hear her talking crying or yelling.
Possibly you might be able to see her.
I thought you would see her a black figure or mask.
Now, you mentioned the attic, right?
Yeah.
I don't know if you've noticed it, but there is a hook on the attic door now.
The door would just open on its own,
and it got to the point where it bothered her so much
that I had to put the hook on it to keep it secure.
Okay.
She's very protective of the upstairs area.
What she was showing me was her either pushing people down the stairs
or scaring people so much they fall on their own.
She did. Tell her what happened to you, Kelly.
There was an invisible force behind me
that smashed my face into the carpet.
I mean it smashed me like a Mack truck.
Here's a photo to show you what happened to her.
My goodness.
Now, as far as Kelly getting pushed could that be caused by this woman that lived here?
Yes.
Did she do anything else?
So, I saw her getting aggressive with a living person
and that was in the bedroom at the top.
You go to the top of the stairs and make a right.
That's Chris's bedroom.
That person, if they're having a dream or they're aware feel good.
Like, feel like this is a positive good experience.
But, in reality it's not a good situation at all.
Like, this person is actually being attacked.
Amy, one of the biggest reasons Kelly called us in
is because she's worried about Chris.
Now, these three all say that he's become angry, depressed
and withdrawn since moving into the house.
I am worried.
You know, the weird thing is when I interviewed him,
he told me he had no experiences-- nothing.
So, is it possible that Chris is having experiences but don't know it?
Yeah, sometimes these things can happen when people are sleeping.
I saw her attacking the person in bed,
and I had a sketch done of what I saw.
What does she want?
Basically, she is, like, sucking energy from him.
So draining him physically.
Her goal is to make this person sick and eventually cause death.
You know Kelly, you told me you don't like asking anybody for help,
but after what Amy told us tonight, it's a good thing you did.
Now we know the problem isn't just the house, it's also you.
So now, for the big question-- is there anyway to fix it
so you guys can stay here safely as a family
or do you need to pack up and get out while you can?
For that answer I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
So, the first thing is you need to deal with the fact that you have abilities.
What I would like to see you do is to begin seeing a psychotherapist
after you start working with your abilities--
the dead in your the room, you're gonna start moving them on
without you even being aware.
So, should these guys cool off with the investigations
til her abilities are taken care of? Yes.
I want my mom to
work on her abilities and do what she has to do.
Okay, now...what we are going to do about the crazy man and hobo guy--
you do need a medium.
The hobo guy is going to be really good to go.
So, he'll be able to move on rather quickly.
The crazy blurry man will put up a little bit more of a fight.
Now, the crazy lady she doesn't want to leave.
Dealing with her is going to be a little harder,
so a demonologist does need to come and deal with her
because she's functioning on that level.
Once she goes, will Chris go back to being his old self?
Definitely.
Now Kelly, I gotta ask you.
That's a long list that Amy gave you.
I mean, are you gonna take her advice and do it?
Absolutely. I have to for the house-- for our family.
For everything.
Things will get better.
You're not going to be cured,
but things will be much easier to manage.
So Mike, "Mr. Debunker",
what are your thoughts on everything you've heard tonight?
It's not good news, but Amy's given us
specific instructions to fix everything.
We have to do some work, all three of us.
It's all doable.
Right.
Having the answers is what I've needed.
Kelly and Mike have a lot of work ahead of them,
but if they contact a medium to remove the hobo and the blurry man,
and a demonologist to banish the lady in black,
Kelly can focus on managing her abilities
and this family can find the peace it's been searching or.